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		<title>You Think I Disappear; I Think You Can&#8217;t Keep Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie Booth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I consider myself a rational, objective person. In fact, I pride myself on my ability to rationally and objectively see many &#8220;sides&#8221; of a situation or problem, setting aside emotion in search of understanding &#8211; actually in search of the &#8230; <a href="http://www.valeriebooth.com/at-home/archived-writings/personality-type/you-think-i-disappear-i-think-you-cant-keep-up_107/ ">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself a rational, objective person.</p>
<p>In fact, I pride myself on my ability to rationally and objectively see many &#8220;sides&#8221; of a situation or problem, setting aside emotion in search of understanding &#8211; actually in search of the best way to proceed. It&#8217;s an ability I am very comfortable with and something I enjoy &#8211; most likely because it makes sense.</p>
<p>Being an almost even split between a Myers-Briggs INTP and e/INTJ Personality Type, I have a strong preference for that which makes sense. </p>
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<p>Over the past few months, I have been segmenting my interests and building other websites around those interests &#8211; at the expense of posting to this blog. I wanted my posts to make sense to people and have a common thread between them.</p>
<p><strong>I didn&#8217;t think that valeriebooth.com could stand a post about <a href="http://www.mints-usa.com" title="buttermints with your logo">buttermints with your logo</a> on the heels of a blog article about <a title="how to make money online with your domain name" href="http://www.domainnames-usa.com/domain-monetization/build-it-or-park-it-domain-monetization-strategies-of-the-overworked-or-underpaid-67/" target="_blank">how to make money with a  domain name</a>. Certainly posting about the progress of my Part 135 application (read: girl, interrupted) would not fit either.</strong></p>
<p>The unintended result is a bit of cognitive dissonance and guilt over not updating this site along with a languishing valeriebooth.com. My preference would be to lump it all into one website; that would definitely give Google AdSense and you, my reader, a run for your money in an ADHD sort of way. </p>
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<h2>I&#8217;m not ADHD</h2>
<p>I don&#8217;t have Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Instead, I have the ability to focus intently on something &#8211; for long periods of time &#8211; and I have a variety of stuff that I like to focus intently on. Big Picture Stuff.  Overviews of Stuff. Stuff like Web Trends, Web Development, Betas&#8230;  And when that gets to be too much, I like to focus on that big blue ocean out there, where people who like to fish or sit out in the middle of nowhere go.</p>
<p>The only explanation lies in the INTP personality type coupled with the 7 and 8 side of my <a href="http://www.enneagram.com/enneagram_type5.html" title="enneagram 5 the observer">Enneagram 5</a> self. Willem Renzzema had an <a title="is adhd really intp" href="http://intp-bird.blogspot.com/2005/02/adhd-or-extroverted-intuition.html">interesting post comparing ADHD to the INTP</a>.</p>
<p>Back to the guilt and cognitive dissonance&#8230;  everyone else seems compelled with &#8220;productivity&#8221; and the here and now.  My idea of productivity is understanding. And understanding takes time. Mahendra Prasule, another INTJ over at &#8220;<a href="http://mahendrap.wordpress.com/" title="an unquiet mind">An Unquiet Mind</a>&#8221; doesn&#8217;t sweat this one bit. He readily admits a myriad of interests without batting an eyelash. I&#8217;ll bet he&#8217;s an Enneagram 5 all the way. Thank you Mahendra; peace in life is found when we understand ourselves and discover we are not alone.</p>
<p>Mahendra posted a list of INTJ resources on his site, most notably, David Boles&#8217; <a title="mark of the intj rational mastermind" href="http://urbansemiotic.com/2005/06/24/mark-of-the-intj-rational-mastermind/">Mark of the INTJ Rational-Mastermind</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll outline the points David makes but I urge you to hop over to his site and give it a read. If you are an INTJ or have an interest in the novelties of this personality type, I think you&#8217;ll find a kindred spirit there. Here are some of his points, with my commentary outside of the quotes.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>We are Information Hounds</strong><br />
We must know. We must always be learning and researching something new&#8230; My books are my friends. I mark them up. I dog-ear them. I write all over them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey David &#8211; you aren&#8217;t alone. My books are somehow sacred. Those tiny post-it notes &#8211; they are my friends too, marking pages where passages resonated, made sense or required future reference.</p>
<p><strong>And, to The Man of the House:</strong> when you tell me that I should get rid of my books once I&#8217;ve read them (because they&#8217;re useless and just taking up space and you want to put photos up on the bookshelf),  <strong>I don&#8217;t think you understand that &#8220;reading&#8221; the book is not the endpoint.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>We Are Not Cold and Distant</strong><br />
We do not see ourselves as being cruel, cold, distant, unbending, unforgiving, mean, icy or impossible but sometimes people use those words to describe us. We are factual&#8230; some might say &#8220;lawyerly.&#8221; We like references that back up ideas.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This bears pointing out.  <strong>Maintaining an objective view and remaining rational while stuck in the center of some else&#8217;s emotional fugue is my only lifeline.</strong> And most people seem to be in a constant emotional fugue.</p>
<p><strong>I don&#8217;t feel nor do I think that problems get solved with unbridled emotion.</strong></p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say I don&#8217;t feel. I do. I feel deeply and passionately. But I do not want my emotions ruling my decisions. In fact, I can&#8217;t stand it! Why? That&#8217;s simple. Emotion is an unreliable judge &#8211; far from even-handed &#8211; and I like fair and even-handed.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>We Are Viciously Loyal</strong><br />
&#8230;We do not collect friends or affection. We pick a couple of people and stick with them forever&#8230;You always know where you stand with us. If we like you, we say so. If we don&#8217;t, we won&#8217;t have to say it out loud for you to know.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I could not have said it better.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>We Do Not Make the Same Mistake Twice</strong><br />
&#8230; We are fixers. We are forward thinkers. We like to re-imagine the future with new behaviors that will result in errors not happening a second time.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This coupled with the ability to see multiple potentials (see below) tends to make me a bit pushy when I see things happening in a way that will most likely result in a mistake or a set-back. Keep in mind INTP&#8217;s and INTJ&#8217;s like things and people to make sense &#8211; and going down what an INTP/INTJ perceives as &#8220;the wrong path&#8221; does not make sense. </p>
<p>Enter agitation for a change in course.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>Disconnected</strong><br />
We are sometimes accused of being disconnected from the rest of society.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I remember my Mom describing me, at seventeen, as &#8220;aloof.&#8221; I never felt aloof (or different until I got older); I just needed time to understand what was going on.  I&#8217;ve come to realize that this need of mine results in the appearance of &#8220;aloof.&#8221; </p>
<p><strong>I like watching, observing, seeing how everything fits &#8211; or doesn&#8217;t &#8211; together.. </strong><strong></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t that I don&#8217;t like interacting; I do. <strong>My curiosity, though, tends to extend past the normal social boundaries of polite conversation.</strong> So, if I start &#8220;interacting&#8221; the way I want to interact, I&#8217;d end up probing until I had what I considered a complete picture of you or the situation at hand. You&#8217;d most likely feel uncomfortable with my direct questions, so it&#8217;s much easier if I just sit back and take it all in and get my complete picture that way.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;As future thinkers, we have, at times, the uncanny ability to know what will happen in the future before most of the people around us. That ability is sometimes interpreted by others as being &#8220;arrogant&#8221; and we work on trying to keep our mouths from always saying &#8220;I told you so&#8221; because that doesn&#8217;t go over well even though we are right to say it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d like to clarify this. I think we INTJ&#8217;s/INTP&#8217;s have an ability to see multiply potentials at one time. In other words, <strong>we&#8217;re able to see potential outcomes or probabilities given a changing set of variables</strong>. It&#8217;s the &#8220;if this happens, then this or this is likely &#8211; but if that occurs, then these other three other outcomes are possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t met many people with this ability or who even care about this. Most people are practical in the short-term and have little use for this kind of long view thinking. In fact, it probably frustrates them as they see it as an immense waste of time. While they are out there &#8220;doing,&#8221; we are still sitting here &#8220;thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>For me, this is a fundamental way of life.</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what will happen in the future. But I sure can see many possibilities with varying probabilities. Very few things are written in stone for me. And with every variable that becomes known, my &#8220;predictions&#8221; come very close to reality.</p>
<p>Here is how <a title="david boles" href="http://urbansemiotic.com/2005/06/24/mark-of-the-intj-rational-mastermind/">David Boles</a> put it (italics are mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We have the gift, not of predicting the future, but of knowing what will happen before it happens <em>based on cultivating, chalking out and extending the current situation</em>. Sometimes that can be scary for us because we can see something bad happening before our eyes before it actually happens.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If you are in a relationship with an INTJ/INTP, it would be helpful if you humored her (or him) as s/he maps out what may be. Open ended questions work best i.e., &#8220;well, if we do this, how might it affect that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Believe me, your world will open up.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>Sometimes We Disappear</strong><br />
Disappearing is, perhaps, one of the most annoying things some INTJs (and <a href="http://www.enneagram.com/enneagram_type5.html" title="enneagram 5 the observer">Enneagram 5</a> folks ) do that people dislike. I promise you we are not trying to insult you or to hurt your feelings by leaving or by appearing to leave. We leave, usually without comment, from groups or meetings or parties or get-togethers because we become interested in something else. It&#8217;s that simple. We decide to investigate elsewhere. No malice is intended in disappearing. We don&#8217;t see it as disappearing. We see it more like, &#8220;moving on&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>I think we simply get bored and/or drained. For this reason, I usually carry my books with me everywhere, just in case I have to withdraw.</p>
<p><strong>I don&#8217;t like being bored and I especially don&#8217;t like being bored and stuck without an escape or a way to work on whatever it is that interests me</strong>. Just about the only place I am never bored is out on the ocean. Why am I not bored? Because I&#8217;m in my own head on beautiful blue water with no distractions! </p>
<p>There&#8217;s another component to this idea of &#8220;disappearing.&#8221; I know sometimes it appears as if I &#8220;go away&#8221; mentally. I feel it too. When I am learning something or starting a project or reading a book, I am fairly well-focused. Time disappears along with everything else and I don&#8217;t like being pulled away from what I am working on. In fact, I often resent it! I&#8217;ve noticed that when I need mental downtime and an escape from everyone, I&#8217;ll go buy a romance novel, curl up in the bed and stay there for the day. There&#8217;s nothing &#8220;wrong&#8221; I am just re-charging.</p>
<p>I can and do multi-task well but it&#8217;s not my preferred way of working.  I prefer to focus on one thing at a time.  When I am multi-tasking, I feel like i am coasting along, not really absorbing anything. I don&#8217;t consider multi-tasking particularly difficult. I just &#8220;see&#8221; that which needs to be done very much like the Tetris game and there I am, turning and shifting those bars as they fall, putting them into place.</p>
<p>But I can assure you I have not disappeared.  I&#8217;m actually juggling a multitude of details that drive a lot of people bananas.</p>
<p><strong>So, when you think I disappear, I just think you can&#8217;t keep up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Moving right along&#8230;</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We do great in one-on-one situations. When there are more than three people in the room we tend to hang out in corners by ourselves. Mingling is not a strong INTJ trait because it usually involves idle chatter.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen. </p>
<p><strong>Another point is that mingling requires an expenditure of energy</strong>. Personally, I&#8217;d like to put that energy to good use by learning something about you I didn&#8217;t know before; I can&#8217;t help it &#8211; once we&#8217;ve said &#8220;hello&#8221; and I see that you are okay and in one piece, unless you are willing to share in-depth, I really don&#8217;t know what else to do or say. Talking to me about the weather or the simple, &#8220;hey how are ya doin&#8217;&#8221; just bores the crap out of me. I just find myself mentally wandering&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>I want to know what are you working on, what are your passions, what are you looking forward to and why. That involves more than just idle chit-chat.</strong></p>
<p>What started out as an evening of &#8220;Gee Val, you should really update your site..&#8221; turned into this&#8230; a longer-than-intended missive on the INTJ,  INTP and Enneagram 5 personality type.  I haven&#8217;t disappeared.</p>
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